Timeline for How would you have avoided the Miss Universe 2015 mistake?
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| Jan 1, 2016 at 13:45 | comment | added | Alex S | @plainclothes - Thank you :) for your counter arguments, its making me think of more clear ways to express and improve the answer | |
| Jan 1, 2016 at 13:43 | comment | added | Alex S | @plainclothes - The duties to be taken up the the "next in line" or "runner up" having nothing to do with the fact that a Number is an "Absolute Representative", while Next, After, 1 place after, 2 places after, 3rd from his right, 4th from the Window are "Relative modifiers" using "language verbiage semantics" - Absolutes are always easier and clear - less information overload - Your answer. What if I said your Seat in the Cinema or Train was "first after the 3rd row in the 4th coach after the first blue coach" - Or easier.. Coach no. 13. Done.. No RELATIVE MODIFIERS required. ABSOLUTES. | |
| Dec 31, 2015 at 17:44 | comment | added | plainclothes | As I understand the whole format, "runner up" is the correct term because she becomes Miss U if the current winner fails in her duties. She truly is the 1st runner up in the sense that she's next in line. | |
| Dec 31, 2015 at 7:51 | comment | added | Alex S | @fractalspawn - Loser is the wrong thing to use here. 1st place/ rank: Gold, 2nd place/ rank: Silver, 3rd place/ place: Bronze. They are all winner ranks, but No. 1 gets the Crown. The whole RunnerUp modifier is numerically displaced scale. 1st Runner up = 1st after 1st place.. Confusing information modifiers. | |
| Dec 31, 2015 at 7:45 | comment | added | Alex S | @DanHenderson - UX & Design encompasses everything; font, words, clarity, lack of ambiguity, colors, size, shape, correct association and avoiding wrong disassociation. the numeric '1' even when not READ as language automatically DENOTES 1st place/ WINNER. Design does not allow confusing LABELING. | |
| Dec 31, 2015 at 0:23 | comment | added | Dan Henderson | This answer isn't really appropriate for UX.SE. You're arguing linguistics on a site focused on design. | |
| Dec 30, 2015 at 23:11 | comment | added | PixelSnader | @Nav It's supposed to make you feel better or some bullshit. You're not SECOND place. You're FIRST... after the winner. | |
| Dec 30, 2015 at 20:04 | comment | added | coblr | YES! It feels like they're trying to make the girls feel better for losing or something. It's completely useless to do 1st "runner up". The first loser is still a loser. | |
| Dec 30, 2015 at 19:14 | history | edited | Alex S | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Dec 30, 2015 at 18:29 | history | edited | Alex S | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Dec 30, 2015 at 18:26 | comment | added | Alex S | And they have chosen to get Harvey again :) . If they wish to have Global hosts come to the dias, the terminology might have to be more Global. PS: With specific to his goofup, this is why it happened - And no one here mentioned training him or teaching him but continue to re-insert the same confusing term. | |
| Dec 30, 2015 at 18:23 | comment | added | plainclothes | lets assume that the person may not understand language use of "Runner Up" <- But then you've already failed. That's the terminology for this event. The host's experience needs to be crafted to include careful training and adequate cues during the event. If he sees "3rd place" but the title is "runner up", he's more likely to fail. | |
| Dec 30, 2015 at 18:15 | history | edited | Alex S | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Dec 30, 2015 at 18:10 | history | edited | Alex S | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Dec 30, 2015 at 18:05 | history | edited | Alex S | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Dec 30, 2015 at 16:47 | comment | added | Nav | Exactly! "Runner up" has never made much sense to me either. | |
| Dec 30, 2015 at 14:44 | history | answered | Alex S | CC BY-SA 3.0 |