Timeline for Why do showers have "hot" and "cold" knobs rather than "temperature" and "quantity" knobs?
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| Jan 7, 2022 at 18:47 | comment | added | Ryan | See also: ux.stackexchange.com/q/45688/11852 | |
| Dec 20, 2017 at 7:23 | answer | added | Sanjana Mehta | timeline score: 1 | |
| Jul 18, 2016 at 22:49 | comment | added | Jason C | I also very rarely see hot/cold knobs on showers (Northeast US, but even all throughout the US). Most I see are either the type where you don't really adjust pressure, just temperature (you turn it on it comes all the way on cold then the more you turn the hotter it gets), or the handle style where rotating is temperature and pulling is pressure. So this is kind of a strange question to me. The only time I see separate hot/cold knobs in showers is in old (> 50-60 yr) hotels and houses, or in more "thrown together" type situations where on-hand parts were used for plumbing. | |
| Dec 14, 2015 at 13:35 | comment | added | Hugo | This is pretty much the "RGB vs. HSV/HSL" debate all over again. ;) | |
| Apr 18, 2015 at 18:31 | answer | added | Roux Martin | timeline score: 0 | |
| Apr 15, 2015 at 3:01 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Apr 13, 2015 at 0:27 | comment | added | Deltharis | @SteinG.Strindhaug I'm from Poland, I've been on vacations in Croatia, Bulgaria, Greece, Tunisia, Turkey... And this question is the first time I see "temperature and quantity" controls. | |
| Apr 12, 2015 at 21:00 | comment | added | Agi Hammerthief | @SteinG.Strindhaug Separate hot and cold taps are still fairly common in Southern Africa, particularly in houses built before the 1990s (not so much in hotels, though). | |
| Apr 9, 2015 at 13:04 | comment | added | Stein G. Strindhaug | Actually, I cant imagine the ancient hot/cold knobs is allowed in new buildings in Norway (possibly in the EU too). Never seen them in house built in after 1990... | |
| Apr 9, 2015 at 12:57 | comment | added | Stein G. Strindhaug | Where is the ancient hot/cold knobs most common? I almost never see this in Europe except in very old buildings with original plumbing. Almost all showers in Europe have a pressure dial and a mechanical thermostat dial usually with a anti scald feature (disableable using a button) preventing you to use temperatures above 40 C. | |
| Apr 9, 2015 at 1:00 | comment | added | user28926 | For hysterical raisins! | |
| Apr 8, 2015 at 20:24 | answer | added | DA01 | timeline score: 0 | |
| Apr 7, 2015 at 17:25 | comment | added | Matt Burland | I used to live in a house that had two taps on the shower that looked like regular taps, except one was pressure and the other temperature. It caused no end of confusion for guests not to mention embarrassment when we'd have to explain to them how to work the shower. | |
| Apr 7, 2015 at 16:49 | history | protected | JonW♦ | ||
| Apr 7, 2015 at 15:25 | comment | added | algiogia | Most tap in Italy would be the "mixer" type, unless the house is really really old. Bit disappointed to see that in UK are still widely used. | |
| S Apr 7, 2015 at 8:04 | history | suggested | Giacomo1968 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 7, 2015 at 6:06 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Apr 7, 2015 at 5:47 | comment | added | DA01 | I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because like many 'object' questions on here it's not about UX but much broader product issues (cost, manufacturing, history, etc.) | |
| Apr 7, 2015 at 4:52 | comment | added | Scott - Слава Україні | It’s also an accessibility issue. If a person has only one usable hand, and he’s using a shower with Hot and Cold knobs, he cannot change the water pressure without changing the temperature and then changing it back. | |
| Apr 7, 2015 at 1:17 | comment | added | Jonathon | Because that is how it works in the background. We have simply not adopted, to any large degree, any levels of abstraction on top of our hot and cold water pipes. | |
| S Apr 6, 2015 at 21:36 | history | suggested | Panzercrisis | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
earlier, the only direct reference to "the latter option" was in the title
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| Apr 6, 2015 at 19:54 | comment | added | H2CO3 | Why do mathematicians use Cartesian coordinates (x and y extent) "rather than" polar coordinates (angle and magnitude)? Both have their legitimate use case. | |
| Apr 6, 2015 at 18:33 | answer | added | Sam | timeline score: 10 | |
| Apr 6, 2015 at 16:45 | answer | added | blankip | timeline score: -1 | |
| Apr 6, 2015 at 8:52 | comment | added | Steve Jones | @usr I have seen both sets of controls so one is not more common than the other. This whole question is ludicrous anway, IMHO, as there isn't one way that is common and another way that is better. There are two common ways, each with advantages and disadvantages. | |
| Apr 6, 2015 at 7:47 | comment | added | Christopher Creutzig | As another point on the legacy aspect, in youtube.com/watch?v=HfHgUu_8KgA, Tom Scott explains why until relatively recently many British houses had to have separate faucets for hot and cold water. He doesn't discuss what that means for showers, though, come to think of it. | |
| Apr 5, 2015 at 23:22 | answer | added | geometrikal | timeline score: 1 | |
| Apr 5, 2015 at 20:17 | comment | added | cpast | I've never seen hot/cold knobs on a shower (living in the eastern US); showers I've seen have all either had independent temperature and strength (although temperature doesn't give you an actual temperature, just a generic range from cold to hot) or a single control for temperature (that also controls flow, though that's pretty much constant once it's on) | |
| Apr 5, 2015 at 9:08 | vote | accept | Zaenille | ||
| Apr 5, 2015 at 9:06 | answer | added | Lefty | timeline score: 3 | |
| Apr 5, 2015 at 8:39 | comment | added | Sampo Sarrala | Where I live I have not seen many hot/cold knobs, all those have either temp+strength or only temp (with auto flow start/stop). I know it's not like this all over the world and in some places for some strange reason people still install new hot/cold screws instead of steadily available thermostatic taps. | |
| Apr 5, 2015 at 6:58 | answer | added | Stephan Branczyk | timeline score: 0 | |
| Apr 5, 2015 at 4:19 | comment | added | Steve Jessop | @usr: many sinks do have temp/strength controls on mixer taps ;-p That said, on taps typically it's not a thermostatic temperature control, the hot-cold axis actually controls the proportion of each water supply. My shower has a mechanical thermostatic temperature control, though. | |
| Apr 5, 2015 at 1:13 | answer | added | Alejandro Veltri | timeline score: 2 | |
| Apr 4, 2015 at 23:13 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | I agree the premise of the question is flawed. You are assuming prevalence one particular design but I see no evidence of that. | |
| Apr 4, 2015 at 18:07 | comment | added | usr | @SteveJones then why do sinks have hot/cold controls? Same issue. | |
| Apr 4, 2015 at 17:07 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackUX/status/584402030904606721 | ||
| Apr 4, 2015 at 17:04 | comment | added | A E | Most showers here in the UK (in my experience) do have one control for temperature and one control for pressure (examples). Mostly you only see 'hot' and 'cold' where it's the kind of half-assed shower that's just a cheap add-on to bath taps. | |
| Apr 4, 2015 at 16:37 | history | edited | tohster |
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| Apr 4, 2015 at 16:27 | answer | added | ArtOfWarfare | timeline score: 19 | |
| Apr 4, 2015 at 16:03 | answer | added | tohster | timeline score: 108 | |
| S Apr 4, 2015 at 13:47 | history | edited | Zaenille | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| S Apr 4, 2015 at 13:47 | history | suggested | tillinberlin | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 4, 2015 at 13:33 | answer | added | tillinberlin | timeline score: 33 | |
| Apr 4, 2015 at 12:20 | answer | added | Lee Harrison | timeline score: 12 | |
| Apr 4, 2015 at 11:47 | comment | added | Steve Jones | To match the taps on sinks, I guess. Also, many showers do have temp/strength controls. | |
| Apr 4, 2015 at 11:42 | history | asked | Zaenille | CC BY-SA 3.0 |