Timeline for Should the cross (or 'X' ) button do something other than close (e.g. minimize or hide)?
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| Apr 1, 2015 at 8:00 | comment | added | tohster | you keep making unsupported statements like, Windows Defender is an exception to a standard. I'm sorry but this is misleading and just wrong in the face of the adduced documentation for the Windows and the MS definition of the Close button throughout this page. Remember that Skype is owned by Microsoft, and was one of the first apps to comply with the Windows Metro UI spec. MS has put a lot of effort into building a compliant UI for Skype as a showcase app for Windows 8. Accusing MS of using its own spec incorrectly is far-fetched and flies against both reason and documentation. | |
| Mar 31, 2015 at 14:11 | comment | added | KRyan | @tohster Agreed, this answer is also lacking in much the same way yours is. I am in the process of trying to dig up backing material, but felt that a counter-point to your own argument was necessary, and since the community doesn’t seem to feel that it’s necessary to justify or back up answers, that’s apparently been acceptable. In reality, both answers are close to worthless because all any reader has to go on is our words for it. | |
| Mar 31, 2015 at 1:04 | comment | added | tohster | this is why I encouraged you to read the Windows documentation and see for yourself. The close button definition applies to application window frames, modals, and dialogs (it's bad practice to have different definitions for idioms related to the different windows). I cannot give you a tutorial on the Windows UI framework, but there are thousands of Windows applications out there so the close button behavior isn't some new thing...the idiom has been used for almost 2 decades and, if you insist on being pedantic, why don't you show us why it's DIFFERENT from what the documents say. | |
| Mar 31, 2015 at 0:52 | comment | added | KRyan |
@tohster Unlike Skype, Defender has a purpose that justifies an exception. The document that you link is specifically about Window Management; it discusses the X in that context, and only in that context. They are talking more about sub-windows within an application, i.e. the windows that an application must manage, than they are about the main window, so far as I can tell.
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| Mar 30, 2015 at 23:32 | comment | added | tohster |
I don't think this is correct. Here is a screenshot of the Microsoft's own Windows 8.1 Defender software. The X button appears on the top right, and it dismisses the window but the software keeps running in the background. This is not because Microsoft is breaking its own idioms: on the contrary, it's consistent with Microsoft's window specifications for the X close button which can be found here. Closing is not the same as exiting.
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| Mar 30, 2015 at 23:17 | history | edited | KRyan | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
more clearly labeling my opinion/suspicion as such
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| Mar 30, 2015 at 19:38 | history | answered | KRyan | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
